Russian ex-officer: We’re in a proxy war with the US | Conflict Zone
DW, 19 Jan 2023
Few Moscow foreign policy & defense experts are more well-connected than Dimitri Trenin who left the Russian army as a military intelligence colonel and went on to head the Carnegie Moscow Center until it was dissolved in 2022.
Trenin, who spoke to Tim Sebastian from the Russian capital, says the Kremlin sees the war in Ukraine as an "existential" fight and that Vladimir Putin's nuclear threats need to be taken seriously. Much of the Russian elites sees the conflict as a proxy war with the United States and its NATO allies. Trenin says many issues could have been resolved before the Russian invasion on February 24, 2022, but tragically were not.
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Chapters Info
00:00 Intro Tim Sebastian
01:00 Dimitri Trenin Welcome
01:55 Russia is coping, learning, but it will be hard for some time to come
02:16 What to make of Russian forces change of commanders?
02:36 Prepare for more decisive action
03:15 One law for Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrrov & Yevgeny Prigozhin of Wagner PMC?
03:54 Russia is a country at war.
04:10 Efforts to prevent internal destabilization in Russian social fabric
04:33 Barefoot to the front? Discontent in Moscow
05:05 Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu & Europe as a theater of war for Russia
06:40 Freedom of the press in Russia & Telegram
07:42 Original concept of the “Special Military Operation”
08:47 Western confiscation of RU foreign currency reserves
09:57 Kicking Russia out of SWIFT
10:59 European members of NATO are vassals of the US
11:10 Germany shooting itself in the foot in energy policy
11:32 Criticism of Putin before & after February 24, 2022
11:59 Russian support for Donbass separatists
12:40 This is not the time to criticize the commander in chief
13:10 We are in a proxy war with the United States
13:33 European security & Ukraine in NATO
14:33 Russian post-Soviet foreign policy
15:45 Was NATO enlargement a threat to Russia?
16:58 Genocide in Donbass, UN case at ICJ
17:22 1962 Cuban missile crisis, Khrushchev, & nuclear war
17:55 Putin’s nuclear blackmail vs. deterrence
18:45 War is being waged against Russia
19:25 Russian nuclear doctrine & preventive use of nuclear weapons
20:07 The whole war is existential for Russia
20;27 A world without Russia?
22;14 Is Vladimir Putin mad?
24:14 No one was prepared to sit down with Russia and negotiate
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