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DW, 19 Jan 2023
Few Moscow foreign policy & defense experts are more well-connected than Dimitri Trenin who left the Russian army as a military intelligence colonel and went on to head the Carnegie Moscow Center until it was dissolved in 2022.
Trenin, who spoke to Tim Sebastian from the Russian capital, says the Kremlin sees the war in Ukraine as an "existential" fight and that Vladimir Putin's nuclear threats need to be taken seriously. Much of the Russian elites sees the conflict as a proxy war with the United States and its NATO allies. Trenin says many issues could have been resolved before the Russian invasion on February 24, 2022, but tragically were not.

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Chapters Info

00:00 Intro Tim Sebastian

01:00 Dimitri Trenin Welcome

01:55 Russia is coping, learning, but it will be hard for some time to come

02:16 What to make of Russian forces change of commanders?

02:36 Prepare for more decisive action

03:15 One law for Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrrov & Yevgeny Prigozhin of Wagner PMC?

03:54 Russia is a country at war.

04:10 Efforts to prevent internal destabilization in Russian social fabric

04:33 Barefoot to the front? Discontent in Moscow

05:05 Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu & Europe as a theater of war for Russia

06:40 Freedom of the press in Russia & Telegram

07:42 Original concept of the “Special Military Operation”

08:47 Western confiscation of RU foreign currency reserves

09:57 Kicking Russia out of SWIFT

10:59 European members of NATO are vassals of the US

11:10 Germany shooting itself in the foot in energy policy

11:32 Criticism of Putin before & after February 24, 2022

11:59 Russian support for Donbass separatists

12:40 This is not the time to criticize the commander in chief

13:10 We are in a proxy war with the United States

13:33 European security & Ukraine in NATO

14:33 Russian post-Soviet foreign policy

15:45 Was NATO enlargement a threat to Russia?

16:58 Genocide in Donbass, UN case at ICJ

17:22 1962 Cuban missile crisis, Khrushchev, & nuclear war

17:55 Putin’s nuclear blackmail vs. deterrence

18:45 War is being waged against Russia

19:25 Russian nuclear doctrine & preventive use of nuclear weapons

20:07 The whole war is existential for Russia

20;27 A world without Russia?

22;14 Is Vladimir Putin mad?

24:14 No one was prepared to sit down with Russia and negotiate

24:50 How does Ukraine war end?

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