Suella Braverman joins Christopher Hope at the Conservative Party Conference, and causes a stir by accusing rebel colleagues of staging a coup against the 45p top rate of income tax. The Home Secretary stays on the fence on her party's latest row, whether benefits should rise in line with inflation next year, declares that she's proud of the British Empire, and boldly let's on that her "ultimate aspiration" is to reduce net migration to the UK to the tens of thousands.

Plus, the MP for Fareham dodges the question about whether she would ever run for leader again and explains why the middle classes should evaluate their casual attitude to drugs.

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